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Michael Averko

Hi Eugene

As a kind of take off of AMC's Mad Men, I wonder how well a Russian TV series of Angry Men would do?

The best propaganda is the subtle kind, which isn't so blatant. On the other hand, things have gotten a bit warped to the degree that the more blatant types of propaganda aren't so always clear to many.

Best,

Mike

Eugene Ivanov

Hi Mike,

With a certain amount of shame, I have to admit that I didn't watch the Mad Men series (as I don't watch much of TV at all, with the exception of DWTS and NFL).

You're way better media expert that I, but I'm afraid that blatant propaganda still beats subtle hands-down. And it's not only when it comes to such a "complicated" subject as Russia: just look at the domestic health-care discussion ("death panels" and such).

Best Regards,
Eugene

Michael Averko

Hi back Eugene

With The Sopranos as one of a few exceptions, I'm not much into many of the contemporary TV shows (within the last twenty years) myself.

The net has further influenced this aspect, much like how the advent of television took a portion out of radio's audience.

With the exception of its depiction of early 1960s NY, I haven't really gotten into Mad Men.

Gene Hackman as Jim Hoagland?

On your propaganda point, I'm periodically taken aback by how some seemingly open-monded and intelligent folks can be duped by what's clear BS. When presented with the other view, the more intelligent among them will grasp such a scenario.

All things considered, I think that the subtle/seemingly objective, but nevertheless biased overview has a better chance at convincing, over the more subjective. Of course, there're the extreme agendacrat types who will not budge.

The approach of presenting a viewpoint as a direct reply to what those running opposite of it say differs from spouting one's opinions with little if any consideration to the opposition to them.

Best,

Mike

Michael Averko

Does Biased News Have a "Time Bomb" Effect?
http://www.miller-mccune.com/politics/does-biased-news-have-a-time-bomb-effect-1596

Care of Anatoly Karlin, via his Sublime Oblivion site, the above linked piece relates to the conversation at this thread.

Another "bias" pertains to what is and isn't stressed as bias by some.

The coverage of former Yugosalvia and the former USSR serve as pointed examples. From what I've seen, CNN's Reliable Sources and Fox's News Watch haven't been so forthcoming on this matter - when compared to some other topics.

Sparing the whataboutism about Russian language mass media, the same can be said of some of the English language media based in Russia.

Eugene Ivanov

Hi Mike,

I agree on your propaganda take. There are people who have an agenda -- and who actually "make" anti-Russian propaganda. I'm afraid neither you nor I can convert them (unless we pay them more:).

However, there are indeed people who are biased against Russia because of honest ignorance. I meet them regularly in my daily life, and there is always a hope to educate them (not convert, educate) -- one at a time. Otherwise, what's the point for me to write this blog?

Best,
Eugene

Michael Averko

Bravo to you for doing so Eugene.

I've experienced the same as what you've communicated.

The more like minded among us can still learn from each other - in addition to having some disagreement.

I'm also of the firm belief in constructively criticizing the more high profile of folks who've been given the opportunity, if not privilige, to express counter-"commentariot" views, at the more higher profile of venues.

I stress the "constructively criticizing" in opposition to the not so intelligent grand stand taunting.

For quality and objectivity sake, those at the higher levels of decision making shouldn't be thinking/working counter to the views expressed in this note.

Michael Averko

Hi back Eugne & Co.

Sorry to not have included this additional thought.

It's impossible for any of us to be knowledgeable on every subject.

Such instances increase the likelihood of getting subconsciously duped.

Think of a given subject where someone more familiar with the topic has added onto what wasn't said in relation to what you were led to believe.

As a topic, the former Communist bloc (let alone just Russia) is a vast field.

Best,

Mike

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